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BASE MODELS KNOW HOW TO REASON, THINKING MODELS LEARN WHEN

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Your AI Isn't Thinking Harder, It Just Knows When to Show Off Its Smarts (We Gave It Nudges!)
This paper proposes that advanced "thinking" Large Language Models (LLMs) don't acquire new reasoning abilities but primarily learn *when* to activate existing reasoning mechanisms already latent in simpler base models. By applying targeted "steering vectors" to base models, the researchers were able to recover up to 91% of the performance gap to dedicated thinking models on mathematical reasoning tasks, without updating the base model's weights. This suggests that pre-training instills reasoning capacity, and subsequent training teaches strategic deployment rather than fundamental skill acquisition.

Possible Conflicts of Interest

Two authors, Arthur Conmy and Neel Nanda, are likely affiliated with Anthropic (as inferred from their affiliations in co-authored papers cited in the bibliography, e.g., from 2025). This paper extensively discusses and evaluates various commercial "thinking models," including Anthropic's Claude series, DeepSeek-AI's DeepSeek-R1, Google's Gemini, and OpenAI models. Their potential affiliation with Anthropic, a direct competitor and subject of analysis in the paper, constitutes a conflict of interest.

Identified Weaknesses

Reliance on LLM-as-a-Judge for Taxonomy Evaluation
The paper uses other LLMs (GPT-4.1-mini) to evaluate the interpretability, completeness, and independence of its derived reasoning taxonomies. The authors explicitly state that "the alignment between our evaluation pipeline and true human judgment remains to be validated," indicating a potential limitation in the objective validation of their discovered reasoning categories.
Limited Generalizability to Broader Reasoning Tasks
The empirical evaluation of the hybrid model and identified reasoning mechanisms is primarily confined to mathematical reasoning benchmarks (GSM8K and MATH500). While strong for these domains, it's unclear how well these findings, particularly the specific reasoning mechanisms and the effectiveness of steering, generalize to more open-ended, creative, or less structured reasoning tasks that LLMs also handle.
Less Effective Steering for Smaller Models
The study observed that "hybrid gains are lower for smaller models... which might indicate less clean steering directions and correspondingly marginal improvements." This suggests that the latent reasoning capabilities, or the clarity with which they can be activated via steering vectors, may be less robust or well-defined in models with fewer parameters, limiting the broad applicability of the findings across all LLM scales.

Rating Explanation

This is a strong research paper offering a novel and compelling hypothesis regarding LLM reasoning, backed by a robust methodology and significant empirical evidence. The findings have important implications for the understanding and training of LLMs. While there are acknowledged limitations regarding the LLM-as-a-judge evaluation and some variability for smaller models, these do not undermine the core scientific contribution. The potential conflict of interest is noted but is mitigated by the paper's focus on general mechanistic interpretability rather than direct product comparisons.

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BASE MODELS KNOW HOW TO REASON, THINKING MODELS LEARN WHEN
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